(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[gGo:0.4]ST[1]GN[TT Brno, 5.round ] SZ[19]KM[6.5] PW[Dmitriy Bogatskiy]WR[6d]PB[Dragos Bajenaru]BR[6d]RE[B+1.5]DT[2003-09-07]PC[IGS: igs.joyjoy.net 6969] C[ admanb 26k*\: ha! first observer shyu20 NR \: no shyu20 NR \: its me admanb 26k*\: call it a draw? shyu20 NR \: ok then shyu20 NR \: but the game hasnt even started admanb 26k*\: ... what's your point? \:) shyu20 NR \: no idea shyu20 NR \: even the player names arent on admanb 26k*\: isn't this a relayed game? shyu20 NR \: this is a broadcast game shyu20 NR \: its not on IGS] ;B[pd]C[ admanb 26k*\: well I know at least with the Gosei games, they didn't have names, just GOSEI vs. GOSEI] ;W[dp]C[ shyu20 NR \: no] ;B[pq]C[ shyu20 NR \: it does on the title bar] ;W[dd] ;B[qo] ;W[jp]C[ shyu20 NR \: doh, thought b would do chinese opening again] ;B[cn] ;W[cl] ;B[cq]C[ admanb 26k*\: oh, there we are] ;W[dq] ;B[cp] ;W[do]C[ shyu20 NR \: joseki.....] ;B[dn] ;W[co] ;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[bq] ;W[bn] ;B[ap] ;W[en] ;B[bm] ;W[dm] ;B[an] ;W[cm] ;B[bn]C[ admanb 26k*\: hmm, that doesn't seem like a victory for white...] ;W[fm]C[ shyu20 NR \: b had exactly the same formation yesterday!!!] ;B[el] ;W[em] ;B[jc] ;W[nq] ;B[lq]C[ shyu20 NR \: fight! admanb 26k*\: fight! shyu20 NR \: dont copy me.....] ;W[jq] ;B[mp] ;W[qf] ;B[nd] ;W[rd] ;B[qg]C[ admanb 26k*\: stupid wireless router... admanb 26k*\: shyu, what's your playing account?] ;W[pg] ;B[qh] ;W[ph] ;B[rf] ;W[qe] ;B[qi] ;W[qc] ;B[pc] ;W[re] ;B[pi] ;W[of] ;B[ni] ;W[mn] ;B[np] ;W[pn] ;B[qn] ;W[pm] ;B[ko] ;W[ll] ;B[rl] ;W[lr] ;B[mr] ;W[kr] ;B[cf]C[ kare 3d*\: tel Apple2 Sorry, busy now. Maybe in 15 min...] ;W[fc]C[ kare 3d*\: yep...] ;B[ci] ;W[bd] ;B[jo] ;W[io] ;B[jm] ;W[in] ;B[kl] ;W[lm] ;B[km] ;W[lj] ;B[jj] ;W[lh] ;B[mg] ;W[lg] ;B[mf] ;W[ql] ;B[rk] ;W[oj] ;B[oi] ;W[nj] ;B[pb] ;W[qb] ;B[dr] ;W[er] ;B[cr] ;W[fq] ;B[gb]C[ shyu20 NR \: am i lagging or is it move 89? Chees 16k*\: seems like 89 to me Chees 16k*\: i dont know why its so slow Chees 16k*\: maybe there is some explanation which we cant hear shyu20 NR \: its not a simple move shyu20 NR \: but i was just wondering why it takes so long TourBrno 7d \: it is online, every player has 75 min Chees 16k*\: oh is this a live match] ;W[fb]C[ Chees 16k*\: i thought it was a replay or something Chees 16k*\: no wonder] ;B[nr]C[ shyu20 NR \: read title bar Jazz 3k*\: Dragos must be doing well in the tournament TourBrno 7d \: both players are without loose Jazz 3k*\: thanks Tour shyu20 NR \: is tourbrno the commentary? shyu20 NR \: like, the official one Chees 16k*\: the scribe, at the very least Chees 16k*\: i'm guessing u are just ther watching and have a computer and net handy? TourBrno 7d \: yes shyu20 NR \: agreed shyu20 NR \: especially the BL corner shyu20 NR \: i tend to play for centre Chees 16k*\: i think white wil attack left group first then play inside the big space like at h14 shyu20 NR \: thats kinda hard shyu20 NR \: i mean shyu20 NR \: if u attack left group shyu20 NR \: that strengthens the wall shyu20 NR \: and itd be harder to invade centre shyu20 NR \: yes i know shyu20 NR \: but that forces b to become stronger Chees 16k*\: yeah but if u fight u can determine the outcome of the fight... as long as white can escape to f16 or m13 after invading it is fine shyu20 NR \: need to be ambitious shyu20 NR \: play b13! shyu20 NR \: oh yes... this is a tourney shyu20 NR \: only play ambitious moves in practice games =P shyu20 NR \: the riskier the better shyu20 NR \: thats my style] ;W[kd] ;B[kc] ;W[ib] ;B[ic]C[ shyu20 NR \: what is aji keshi???] ;W[hb] ;B[hc] ;W[gc] ;B[mi]C[ shyu20 NR \: wait, what is aji?] ;W[li] ;B[mk] ;W[mj]C[ shyu20 NR \: im chinese] ;B[lk]C[ shyu20 NR \: M4 may turn out nice later] ;W[kk] ;B[kj] ;W[nk] ;B[jk] ;W[ml] ;B[be]C[ shyu20 NR \: so chief, what IS aji? shyu20 NR \: oh right thx] ;W[ce] ;B[bf]C[ shyu20 NR \: cool shyu20 NR \: now reading the chinese helped shyu20 NR \: invade centre Chees 16k*\: i dont like the igs definition of aji though shyu20 NR \: chinese or english? Chees 16k*\: english shyu20 NR \: cuz the chinese one was the exact term shyu20 NR \: i just didnt know the direct translation Chees 16k*\: yeah the name of the term isnt a definition though shyu20 NR \: u chinese? Chees 16k*\: yeah but i cant read chinese Chees 16k*\: and i'm not familiar with chinese go terms shyu20 NR \: that was pinyin Chees 16k*\: yeah i know shyu20 NR \: u know what it says yea? Chees 16k*\: i was talking about they way they translated to english Chees 16k*\: no i dont know what it says in pinyin Chees 16k*\: what are the words? shyu20 NR \: yu2 wei4 shyu20 NR \: yu = remaining Chees 16k*\: yeah Chees 16k*\: whats wei? Chees 16k*\: possibility? shyu20 NR \: wei = taste(the direct translation) Chees 16k*\: lol shyu20 NR \: just so u know which term Chees 16k*\: is it? Chees 16k*\: which tone is 4? shyu20 NR \: falling Chees 16k*\: ok shyu20 NR \: high tone falling Chees 16k*\: thanks shyu20 NR \: wei4 = taste Chees 16k*\: i'm actually trying to learn mandarin right now shyu20 NR \: if u know what it says Chees 16k*\: so its nice to know how to say taste \:) shyu20 NR \: then u should get a 'feel' of what it means] ;W[cj]C[ Chees 16k*\: which tone is 2? Chees 16k*\: actually can u just tell me what is 1,2,3 and 4? shyu20 NR \: rising] ;B[bj]C[ shyu20 NR \: 1 = constant high shyu20 NR \: 2 = rising] ;W[di]C[ shyu20 NR \: 3 =low, but slight rise] ;B[ch]C[ shyu20 NR \: 4 = falling shyu20 NR \: just wondering shyu20 NR \: what 'styles' do u ppl play? shyu20 NR \: PPL shyu20 NR \: ppl = people shyu20 NR \: what styles do you people play] ;W[dj] ;B[bk]C[ shyu20 NR \: basically im asking everyone] ;W[la]C[ shyu20 NR \: like, do u take corners and stuff? Chees 16k*\: well i dont really know shyu20 NR \: try to win territory shyu20 NR \: or try to gain influence? shyu20 NR \: neither do i shyu20 NR \: but 90% of my games end up with the similar shape Chees 16k*\: i like hidden strategems Chees 16k*\: like] ;B[lb]C[ Chees 16k*\: a hidden escape Chees 16k*\: or a hidden kill shyu20 NR \: i take one corner Chees 16k*\: i enjoy deception shyu20 NR \: and gain influence everywhere else] ;W[mb]C[ shyu20 NR \: then constantly attack to reduce territory shyu20 NR \: and then slay a dragon in the middle Chees 16k*\: ahaha Chees 16k*\: u sound like a crusader from europe shyu20 NR \: i know shyu20 NR \: but that is my style Chees 16k*\: ur feudal castle and tribute system over the lands surrounding shyu20 NR \: same] ;B[ka]C[ Chees 16k*\: hehe shyu20 NR \: i killed a dragon with a technique i learnt from watchin a pro game] ;W[lc] ;B[ma] ;W[md]C[ Chees 16k*\: but i'm only a beginner so i cant really say that i have any particular preference] ;B[nb]C[ Chees 16k*\: ahaha what technique was that? teach me! shyu20 NR \: i dont have one shyu20 NR \: it just ends up like that] ;W[mc]C[ shyu20 NR \: so i guess thats my style shyu20 NR \: ppl call this 'the universe' style' Chees 16k*\: my games are weird] ;B[me]C[ Chees 16k*\: oh ok is that the cosmic style of takemiya masaki or something?] ;W[le] ;B[nc]C[ shyu20 NR \: lemme check the name Chees 16k*\: my games i am usually behind until i pull out my hidden attack and kill a large group Chees 16k*\: then the opponent resigns or we play doggedly till the end shyu20 NR \: i only know the kanji] ;W[ld] ;B[lf]C[ Chees 16k*\: my hero is huang longshi though, who doesnt play like that] ;W[kf] ;B[jd]C[ Chees 16k*\: huang yuetian, rather Chees 16k*\: same person] ;W[ke]C[ shyu20 NR \: yep its him Chees 16k*\: oh ok shyu20 NR \: huang longshi???? shyu20 NR \: hes really cool shyu20 NR \: a few hundred yrs ago Chees 16k*\: yeah i know Chees 16k*\: he rules Chees 16k*\: i want to incorporate his style and my style Chees 16k*\: and i will rule over chief \:P shyu20 NR \: but can play moves that are regarded as good even in the modren go world shyu20 NR \: i will beat everyone shyu20 NR \: i will create a new style =P Chees 16k*\: ahaha shyu20 NR \: my very own style Chees 16k*\: play the edgecrawl style shyu20 NR \: that is useless Chees 16k*\: create a style where u go arou the edge until it seems like u are gonna die but then u play one stone in the centre and white is trapped between the edge and the centre shyu20 NR \: 1........ u get killed easily Chees 16k*\: nah i'm talking about my NEWSTYLE shyu20 NR \: 2.... ur opponent just ignores shyu20 NR \: and forms around 200 pts somewhere else shyu20 NR \: question is] ;B[kg] ;W[jg] ;B[kh] ;W[ie]C[ shyu20 NR \: b needs to defend Chees 16k*\: nah u trap the opponent between the edge and the centre shyu20 NR \: N12 will hurt] ;B[jb] ;W[mh]C[ shyu20 NR \: like this shyu20 NR \: on the other hand shyu20 NR \: w forces b into bad shape in sente] ;B[nh] ;W[ng] ;B[ne] ;W[jh] ;B[ki] ;W[qk] ;B[qm]C[ shyu20 NR \: cool! shyu20 NR \: tengen openings! shyu20 NR \: 5,5 shyu20 NR \: tengen shyu20 NR \: 15,15 shyu20 NR \: imagine that] ;W[po] ;B[pp]C[ shyu20 NR \: what? shyu20 NR \: no shyu20 NR \: that just happened in hikaru no go shyu20 NR \: so i thought of it shyu20 NR \: M4?] ;W[ge] ;B[hf] ;W[he]C[ shyu20 NR \: b is desperate] ;B[sg]C[ shyu20 NR \: o8 is useless shyu20 NR \: dont forget L9] ;W[rb] ;B[gk]C[ shyu20 NR \: L9 leaves u options] ;W[hi]C[ shyu20 NR \: *2 options shyu20 NR \: capture back shyu20 NR \: or extend O8 shyu20 NR \: either way w responds to the opposite] ;B[hm] ;W[gj] ;B[hk]C[ shyu20 NR \: looking bad for b] ;W[im] ;B[gm] ;W[gn] ;B[ad] ;W[ac] ;B[ae] ;W[bc] ;B[de] ;W[cd]C[ shyu20 NR \: not very close] ;B[eg]C[ shyu20 NR \: quite] ;W[fg]C[ shyu20 NR \: but not like the 1-2 pts diff game] ;B[ff] ;W[gf] ;B[fh]C[ shyu20 NR \: now it is =P] ;W[gg] ;B[eh] ;W[ee]C[ shyu20 NR \: b gains back from the central invasion] ;B[ef] ;W[df]C[ shyu20 NR \: according to my count, yes shyu20 NR \: not yet shyu20 NR \: b will igonre this and invade shyu20 NR \: this move may make a difference shyu20 NR \: u never know ;) shyu20 NR \: never assume u win until the game's finished] ;B[oo] ;W[nn] ;B[fj]C[ shyu20 NR \: this may JUST be the 1% shyu20 NR \: i lose 10% of all won games as well ;)] ;W[fl] ;B[fk] ;W[ek] ;B[dk]C[ shyu20 NR \: oh well, game over] ;W[dl]C[ shyu20 NR \: w m4!] ;B[ck]C[ shyu20 NR \: wait shyu20 NR \: nvm shyu20 NR \: save the 3 first] ;W[ej] ;B[fe] ;W[fd] ;B[ii] ;W[hh] ;B[qj] ;W[pj] ;B[hn] ;W[ho] ;B[ia] ;W[ga] ;B[hd] ;W[je] ;B[gd] ;W[if] ;B[dg] ;W[kk] ;B[hj] ;W[gi] ;B[de] ;W[ed] ;B[on] ;W[om] ;B[ih] ;W[ig] ;B[il] ; ;W[gl] ;B[hl] ;W[ji] ;B[ij] ;W[lo] ;B[kp] ;W[kq] ;B[lp] ;W[no] ;B[op] ;W[lk] ;B[es] ;W[fs] ;B[ds] ;W[oe] ;B[od] ;W[se] ;B[qa] ;W[ra] ;B[pa] ;W[sf] ;B[rg] ;W[ms] ;B[pe] ;W[pf] ;B[ls] ;W[ks] ;B[ns] ;W[bl] ;B[al] ;W[fo] ;B[gh] ;W[ls] ;B[fi] ;W[hg] ;B[df] )