(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[20/600 Canadian]
GN[Czech Republic Go Tournament top group - board #2]PW[Ivan Kostka]PB[Jan Prokop]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2009-07-03]EV[Czech Republic Go Tournament 2009]RO[4]PC[Libcice nad Vltavou]WT[Pulcik]BT[Krabicka]US[Pasky]RE[B+1.50]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[de]
;W[fd]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]
;W[eb]
;B[ci]C[taiji [3k\]: where is jan today?!?
]
;W[qj]C[taiji [3k\]: did he win yesterday?
]
;B[ql]C[Recogo [5k\]: xD Exciting
Msharingan [4k\]: hello, r they pro ?
MR2009 [-\]: no, they are strong amateurs
Msharingan [4k\]: OK thx
]
;W[qf]
;B[qh]
;W[of]
;B[nc]C[MR2009 [-\]: they have problems with clock
lagoon [10k\]: ^^
Gims [-\]: yeah.. stuck at 90 min ? xD
MR2009 [-\]: it's working again now
]
;W[pi]
;B[rd]C[Mem0r3x [1k\]: Must be made in china >__>
]
;W[nq]C[Gims [-\]: there is nothing wrong with china (so far)
]
;B[pq]
;W[no]
;B[mp]
;W[np]
;B[kp]
;W[iq]C[Daoloth [-\]: depends on your definition of "wrong"
]
;B[ln]C[MR2009 [-\]: white seems to be reading deeply
Daoloth [-\]: o7 or m2 would be my only choices ...
MR2009 [-\]: but which one would you choose? :)
]
;W[po]C[MR2009 [-\]: a fancy move in the end
]
;B[qo]C[MR2009 [-\]: but the clock broke again
MR2009 [-\]: they are looking for the referree now
MR2009 [-\]: replaced the clock now
]
;W[qn]
;B[pn]C[wladus [8k\]: zdar lidi, tj super, že to je online na kgs :-)
]
;W[pm]
;B[oo]C[vajnstejn [4k\]: koncne tu nekdo mluvi svetovym jazykem! :-D
wladus [8k\]: jojo, nevim na co si hrajou, když je to v českym pokoji
]
;W[on]
;B[po]
;W[qm]
;B[om]C[MR2009 [-\]: :))
MR2009 [-\]: pulca stale premysli a premysli a premysli
MR2009 [-\]: tech 90 minut si uziva :)
vajnstejn [4k\]: Pulca si asi prijel ten turnaj vylozene uzit co? :-D
wladus [8k\]: no jeste že tam nehraje vajnstejn
wladus [8k\]: to už by se jelo na byoyoumi
MR2009 [-\]: ctyrhodinove partie nejsou zadna vyjimka
wladus [8k\]: v podani vajnstejna ale ne
wladus [8k\]: :D
]
;W[nn]
;B[ol]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[rl]
;B[nk]C[lewicowiec [1d?\]: why not n7 ?
]
;W[kr]
;B[mr]C[MR2009 [-\]: n7 for who?
lewicowiec [1d?\]: B
MR2009 [-\]: then w would connect out
MR2009 [-\]: white looks at the positoin closelywhile b is somewhere away
]
;W[mq]
;B[lr]
;W[lq]
;B[kq]
;W[jr]C[MR2009 [-\]: i wish they played faster :)
otternase [2d?\]: just go for awalk
]
;B[nr]
;W[mm]
;B[lk]C[MR2009 [-\]: oops
MR2009 [-\]: otternase: i can't :)
tetrian [11k\]: by the way, i heard pasky is with you ^^
]
;W[lm]C[MR2009 [-\]: actually, pasky is me :P
]
;B[jn]C[tetrian [11k\]: thats what ive heard ^^
]
;W[jm]
;B[im]
;W[jl]
;B[kn]
;W[ll]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[pg]
;B[nh]
;W[og]
;B[qk]
;W[rk]
;B[pj]C[MR2009 [-\]: ** remember, you can watch four boards of the championship live from overhead cameras, see my info for details
]
;W[qi]
;B[ni]
;W[re]C[gryn [1k\]: i think s15 is bad, should just atari the stone
]
;B[hn]
;W[io]
;B[hp]C[MR2009 [-\]: nice counterpeep
MR2009 [-\]: white smiles
]
;W[ip]
;B[in]C[gryn [1k\]: g4?
MR2009 [-\]: light is being turned on
tetrian [11k\]: .... and both players recognize where the y have played the last 77 moves
MR2009 [-\]: :))
MR2009 [-\]: B 65 minutes left, W 15 minutes left
]
;W[fq]
;B[ik]
;W[kj]
;B[kh]C[MR2009 [-\]: w already has his hand in the bowl for long itme
]
;W[ij]
;B[hj]
;W[ii]
;B[hi]
;W[il]
;B[hl]
;W[ih]
;B[hh]C[MR2009 [-\]: white takes a stone off the bowl...
MR2009 [-\]: and puts it on the table
]
;W[ig]
;B[ro]
;W[rm]
;B[nm]
;W[mn]
;B[ml]
;W[mj]
;B[mk]C[gryn [1k\]: whit should play a big move now
gryn [1k\]: sa c5?
gryn [1k\]: would h14 be good?
MR2009 [-\]: white is in byoyomi
gryn [1k\]: this is key move! :)
gryn [1k\]: don't blow it white!
]
;W[co]C[gryn [1k\]: yessss
MR2009 [-\]: :)
]
;B[cq]
;W[dq]
;B[cm]
;W[bn]
;B[jc]C[gryn [1k\]: white needs to destroy something
gryn [1k\]: if black keeps all of the top, it's the same size as the bottom, and the right and bottom right ar ethe same size, that leave black with a huge win
gryn [1k\]: leaves*
]
;W[lj]
;B[nj]
;W[hg]
;B[qe]
;W[rf]
;B[bm]
;W[ef]
;B[dg]
;W[df]
;B[cf]
;W[eg]
;B[dh]
;W[dn]
;B[dm]
;W[en]
;B[gp]
;W[gq]
;B[fm]C[maybug [1k\]: yes, seems to be easy for black
maybug [1k\]: w can MAYBE somehow exploit s17 m17 weaknesses?
]
;W[lc]
;B[je]
;W[md]
;B[ne]
;W[lf]C[gryn [1k\]: living in the corner is probably not enough
]
;B[rh]
;W[ri]C[gryn [1k\]: now m10 might be bad move since m13 and n13 were sente too
maybug [1k\]: depends, black corner might not be alive completely after white'd live
gryn [1k\]: yeah i mean first
gryn [1k\]: instead of m17
gryn [1k\]: r17 and live or whatever
gryn [1k\]: black probably would live in that struggle
]
;B[kf]
;W[nd]
;B[od]
;W[lg]
;B[lb]
;W[kb]
;B[le]
;W[me]
;B[mb]
;W[kc]C[Genghis [1k\]: If the black k15 group dies, does black have a chance?
]
;B[jb]C[gryn [1k\]: no, but i don't think it dies.
Yekai [2d\]: dead
Yekai [2d\]: hate to say
Yekai [2d\]: but it is dead
Yekai [2d\]: i just can't see how b can make two holes
Yekai [2d\]: over there
Pig [3d\]: he is connected :)
gryn [1k\]: what about n14?
]
;W[ja]C[Gregory [-\]: N14 0 O13
Pig [3d\]: N14
Yekai [2d\]: where 
gryn [1k\]: gregory nice move
Gregory [-\]: yeah, i had a look n14 too, o13 not obvious
]
;B[kg]C[gryn [1k\]: i think it's something easier to see once n14 in place
Yekai [2d\]: l16
Yekai [2d\]: or k17
Yekai [2d\]: k16
gryn [1k\]: not n12 first?
gryn [1k\]: m12*
NekoStone [2k\]: dm12 
NekoStone [2k\]: m12*)
Pig [3d\]: i didn´´ t see k 19 - very nice and natural muve
Pig [3d\]: now it is hard for black
Yekai [2d\]: k16!
Yekai [2d\]: for w
]
;W[kd]C[Yekai [2d\]: ok
Yekai [2d\]: it is fine as well
Yekai [2d\]: my original move
gryn [1k\]: does white have enough eating this small piece though?
]
;B[lh]C[NekoStone [2k\]: W can kill all.....or i'm so stupid and don't see something ;)
Yekai [2d\]: key is to capture two k17 and 18
gryn [1k\]: neko o10 is alive :)
]
;W[jd]C[Yekai [2d\]: that is all
]
;B[he]C[NekoStone [2k\]: i know it, i don't understand l16..
NekoStone [2k\]: why not m12.
MR2009 [-\]: javaness: chido says hi
Yekai [2d\]: it allow undo?
]
;W[id]C[Yekai [2d\]: in real tournament?
gryn [1k\]: probably recorder's mistake
NekoStone [2k\]: i think it was missclick ;)
]
;B[ie]C[Yekai [2d\]: i see
Yekai [2d\]: what ever, it is real tornament
Javaness [2d\]: ask chid0ri if she has seen a unicorn
Yekai [2d\]: undo is not good!
NekoStone [2k\]: anyway....why W don't play M12...
gryn [1k\]: yeah i don't understand either
jofre27 [8k\]: N12
jofre27 [8k\]: B play n11
MR2009 [-\]: javaness: she was asking it for directions
jofre27 [8k\]: Or N13!!
Gregory [-\]: they're talking about playing M12 instead of L16 earlier, i believe jofre
jofre27 [8k\]: Oh
NekoStone [2k\]: >< I don't undestrand Czech Go....they from another planet ;DD
jofre27 [8k\]: I see
gryn [1k\]: i think white can't win with such a small feast
gryn [1k\]: if he has komi, then maybe he can still have a chance
gryn [1k\]: need to play good yose, like b18
]
;W[ke]
;B[fe]
;W[ee]
;B[gd]C[fengitreon [-\]: are there profesional europeans?? only high dan amateurs right?
Javaness [2d\]: yes they are allowed undo in the tournament
]
;W[dd]C[maybug [1k\]: yeah, undos are ok in czech tournaments
]
;B[ce]C[fengitreon [-\]: how czech is stronger than the other european federation?
]
;W[gg]
;B[jf]
;W[hc]
;B[fc]
;W[ed]
;B[fh]
;W[gf]
;B[bb]C[NekoStone [2k\]: Yeap....Soooooo strange ^^
]
;W[ba]C[gryn [1k\]: much nicer
maybug [1k\]: cause we undo
gryn [1k\]: but black got b18 so i am sad
]
;B[gc]
;W[bc]
;B[bd]
;W[ab]C[MR2009 [-\]: this looks sensible :)
]
;B[ad]
;W[am]
;B[al]
;W[an]
;B[bl]C[Gregory [-\]: much better :-)
gryn [1k\]: white can't win now.
Javaness [2d\]: what are you talking about fengitreon?
]
;W[em]
;B[el]
;W[gh]C[maybug [1k\]: czechs are strongest in europe, sure
]
;B[gi]C[Arhiman [4k?\]: g15 sente ?
NekoStone [2k\]: W lost his chance to win, when played l16....><
]
;W[fn]C[fengitreon [-\]: i am talking about how is the rank of the europa , in all federations
maybug [1k\]: we escape, cheat in yose etc..
Javaness [2d\]: Romania or Russia is strongest I think
fengitreon [-\]: oh
NekoStone [2k\]: Russia strongest ^^
gryn [1k\]: romania! :)
]
;B[gn]C[Javaness [2d\]: Romania won the team championship i think
gryn [1k\]: black wins with top corner
NekoStone [2k\]: On team championship can play pro? ;)
Javaness [2d\]: I don't understand your sentence NekoStone
cocaDJ [5d\]: :)
fengitreon [-\]: i guess , nekostone wanted to ask, if pros are able to play in team championship
]
;W[sd]C[fengitreon [-\]: i mean championshipteams
NekoStone [2k\]: Yeap, sorry for my bad English ;)
cocaDJ [5d\]: Ukraine is also strong:)
Javaness [2d\]: they are allowed to play in the european team championship
]
;B[sc]C[Javaness [2d\]: Netherlands, Germany, France, Hungary are not bad either
cocaDJ [5d\]: of course
MR2009 [-\]: hungary is actually very strong
Gregory [-\]: humm
pankun [1k\]: all strong if they hv high rank
MR2009 [-\]: macisajt, aromo, diana, rita...
maybug [1k\]: can some1 run SE and tell me result pls? I'm here via applet and not in condition to count
Javaness [2d\]: tibor is stronger than rita
MR2009 [-\]: yes forgot tibor
gryn [1k\]: maybug as i said black wins with the top corner
Gregory [-\]: i think white should S17
maybug [1k\]: how much though?
tetrian [11k\]: counter sais w +51...
cocaDJ [5d\]: Czech Repulic beat Romania in China:( 
maybug [1k\]: .. I see
Javaness [2d\]: careless
maybug [1k\]: cocaDJ: *thumbs up*
maybug [1k\]: cut?
NekoStone [2k\]: I don't believe that Czech Republic stronger then Russia =\\
gryn [1k\]: might as well.
cocaDJ [5d\]: but Romania team was not complete:)
mice [1k\]: s17 
Gregory [-\]: i think cut
otternase [2d?\]: yes
pankun [1k\]: 5Dan Czech better than 4 k Russia of course
otternase [2d?\]: but w wants to be sure
maybug [1k\]: i guess every1 is rooting for their own nationality :-)
gryn [1k\]: ko for corner is enough to win
cocaDJ [5d\]: :D
gryn [1k\]: no i'm rooting for romania :)
MR2009 [-\]: white sighs
]
;W[se]
;B[rc]
;W[mc]
;B[nb]C[otternase [2d?\]: ?
]
;W[or]
;B[oq]C[Javaness [2d\]: anyway who is winning
]
;W[ls]
;B[pr]C[gryn [1k\]: !
gryn [1k\]: black now
gryn [1k\]: by 10
pankun [1k\]: komi?
]
;W[eh]
;B[ei]C[gryn [1k\]: i am not counting komi
gryn [1k\]: since i don't know it
Javaness [2d\]: H18 seems large
gryn [1k\]: but 10 is more than komi
maybug [1k\]: 6.5 komi
Pig [3d\]: cocaDJ: there played Taranu, Pop Burzo - it should be enough
]
;W[gb]
;B[fb]C[cocaDJ [5d\]: Catalin,Popic,Cornel:)
Javaness [2d\]: oh come on, enough talk about who is the strongest
NekoStone [2k\]: w think that he have enough..
]
;W[fa]
;B[ac]
;W[bb]C[Pig [3d\]: i think, they underestimated it
]
;B[la]C[jofre27 [8k\]: White is winning by 4.5
Pig [3d\]: sure they´re stronger
Pig [3d\]: ok, stop it :)
gryn [1k\]: huh can't count it seems :)
maybug [1k\]: Java, just OT, you might know me as BADMIN :-)
fengitreon [-\]: just OT??
]
;W[ib]
;B[ka]C[maybug [1k\]: off topic
]
;W[ia]C[fengitreon [-\]: oh
]
;B[cn]
;W[bo]
;B[hq]C[gryn [1k\]: I have 60 at most for white, 60+ for black
gryn [1k\]: but i don't know komi
]
;W[hr]C[maybug [1k\]: lol
]
;B[fp]
;W[ep]
;B[oe]C[MR2009 [-\]: this one was antislip's fault :P
Pig [3d\]: komi is 6,5
]
;W[mg]
;B[ng]C[fengitreon [-\]: i wonder if they komi will still going up
fengitreon [-\]: if the komi
gryn [1k\]: uh?
MR2009 [-\]: white hesitates
MR2009 [-\]: doesn't want to play it
MR2009 [-\]: but in the end...
]
;W[nf]C[Javaness [2d\]: the komi stays the same during the game
]
;B[mh]
;W[mf]
;B[si]
;W[rj]C[fengitreon [-\]: yeah i mean , if the komi will going up worldwide
fengitreon [-\]: how high it can go. 
Javaness [2d\]: oh
maybug [1k\]: it's 7.5 in china now, right?
Javaness [2d\]: If black plays O8 he will really kick himself
jofre27 [8k\]: Yes China 7.5
jofre27 [8k\]: komi
]
;B[jk]C[Javaness [2d\]: but that's area komi
]
;W[kk]
;B[ge]
;W[ms]
;B[os]C[gryn [1k\]: n1 just a ko threat?
MR2009 [-\]: white enters next byoyomi period
Dreamland [8k?\]: why p1 ?
gryn [1k\]: because it was atari
Dreamland [8k?\]: ok >.>
]
;W[lp]
;B[lo]C[fengitreon [-\]: i think the komi only should be .5 to avoid draws, and to be fair with both players, they should play two games, with diferent color each, 
gryn [1k\]: fengi why even .5 then?
Javaness [2d\]: so they can still have a draw
mice [1k\]: it's close
fengitreon [-\]: hehee. right. 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: if they did that we would go back to a shusaku style of play
gryn [1k\]: because 2 games can still be a draw if one wins and the other wins.
Javaness [2d\]: isn't S6 big
emre35 [4d\]: b will win
]
;W[sn]C[emre35 [4d\]: s6
gryn [1k\]: i blame white's s15
gryn [1k\]: if white loses
]
;B[rn]C[mice [1k\]: w can win
]
;W[sm]
;B[so]C[jofre27 [8k\]: W need yo be carefully  the group s7-
jofre27 [8k\]: s11
]
;W[rg]C[SiBullet [?\]: f5 3 points?
emre35 [4d\]: no 2 
Javaness [2d\]: N5
SiBullet [?\]: but w b has to fill in g7 later if w takes f5
]
;B[mo]
;W[fo]C[emre35 [4d\]: k3
jofre27 [8k\]:  Noo
gryn [1k\]: yes sib is right
gryn [1k\]: k3 is 1 point?
mitjago [3k\]: w f8
gryn [1k\]: is k3 last point?
]
;B[ec]
;W[jj]
;B[hk]C[gryn [1k\]: 2nd to last it seems
gryn [1k\]: could q15 :)
Arhiman [4k?\]: 0,5 point win
gryn [1k\]: what is komi big or small?
mice [1k\]: ko q15 will decide
emre35 [4d\]: :)
MR2009 [-\]: white shrugs
]
;W[fg]
;B[fi]
;W[ks]
;B[ns]C[ytrytryt: l8?
]
;W[kl]C[gryn [1k\]: 69 for white?
]
;B[jq]
;W[ir]C[gryn [1k\]: (plus komi)
jofre27 [8k\]: B 1.5+
isbhal [-\]: estimate ?
jofre27 [8k\]: yeah
MR2009 [-\]: black shakes his head
]
;B[gm]C[MR2009 [-\]: white at loss :)
]
;W[jo]
;B[ko]C[Javaness [2d\]: play the ko like a squirrel!
MR2009 [-\]: black looks angry
Mofiol [8k\]: q15 !!!!!!!!!
]
;W[pf]
;B[pe]C[Mofiol [8k\]: nooo
Javaness [2d\]: boo hiss
gryn [1k\]: 60 plus komi i mean
fengitreon [-\]: MR2009 is the game broadcasting in eurotv??
zypher [2k?\]: no need for white to play ko there
fengitreon [-\]: eurogotv
]
;W[hd]
;B[go]
;W[jp]
;B[ho]C[fengitreon [-\]: the online site of course
]
;W[op]
;B[km]TW[aa][ca][da][ea][ga][ha][hb][jb][ic][jc][ld][le][sf][qg][sg][ph][qh][rh][sh][si][sj][sk][sl][ao][do][eo][ap][bp][cp][aq][bq][cq][eq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][gr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js]TB[ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ob][pb][qb][rb][sb][oc][pc][qc][qd][ae][be][af][bf][ag][bg][cg][ah][bh][ch][ai][bi][di][aj][bj][cj][dj][ej][fj][gj][oj][ak][bk][ck][dk][ek][fk][gk][ok][cl][dl][fl][gl][nl][hm][qp][rp][sp][qq][rq][sq][or][qr][rr][sr][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[MR2009 [-\]: fengitreon, no
fengitreon [-\]: ok
MR2009 [-\]: video is broadcasted
gryn [1k\]: so white won within komi then no?
MR2009 [-\]: but not in eurogotv
zizu [1k?\]: maybe white should play Q°15
MR2009 [-\]: KGS tells me b+1.5
zypher [2k?\]: yes
maybug [1k\]: ;-( pity
MR2009 [-\]: board counting agrees
tetrian [11k\]: amazing game ^^
tetrian [11k\]: thank you mr 2009
gryn [1k\]: thank you mr2009
Genghis [1k\]: KGS is with a .5 komi
Javaness [2d\]: thanks mister 2009
jofre27 [8k\]: gg!!
maybug [1k\]: thx pasky?
gryn [1k\]: so what was komi?
MR2009 [-\]: both players are surprised by the result
jofre27 [8k\]: 6.5
Pig [3d\]: 6,5
gryn [1k\]: ok
tetrian [11k\]: so its a draw?
MR2009 [-\]: and look confused
jofre27 [8k\]: not b won by 1.5+
Genghis [1k\]: It seems white wins by 5
gryn [1k\]: i was off by 1 with white's score
MR2009 [-\]: but they counted the same so it's official
MR2009 [-\]: GAME OVER: BLACK WINS BY 1.5
MR2009 [-\]: thank you all for watching!
fengitreon [-\]: thanks
MR2009 [-\]: next round will be tomorrow morning at 7:00 GMT
fengitreon [-\]: for broacasting
gryn [1k\]: thanks
MR2009 [-\]: we will have some nice pairings
MR2009 [-\]: Jan SImara (BUM) 5d will play with Radek Nechanicky 6d, we'll probably broadcast that
fengitreon [-\]: mr2009 a curious question, will you bee 2010 the next year?
MR2009 [-\]: fengitreon: probably :)
fengitreon [-\]: lol, ok thanks
MR2009 [-\]: you can still watch video stream of yose of the board 3 if you wish :)
MR2009 [-\]: it's Vlada Danek 5d vs Petr Valasek 2d
MR2009 [-\]: see you all!
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