(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50] PW[ESGC2006]PB[ESGC2006]DT[2006-09-07]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/] ;B[qd]CR[qd]C[ESGC2006 [-\]: Igor is not yet present... ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal waited kindly for ten minutes before his first play Masurao [-\]: That is not Antoine fenech who's playing so ? :) ESGC2006 [-\]: Antione lost his game against Merlijn Kuin in the 5th round ESGC2006 [-\]: So Pal is up against Igor Nemlij, a young talent from Russia ESGC2006 [-\]: Igor arrived ] ;W[dp]CR[dp]C[sunra [-\]: igor is 6d, too? ESGC2006 [-\]: 5d sunra [-\]: thx :) ] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[cc]CR[cc] ;B[od]CR[od] ;W[po]CR[po]C[EmTom [4k?\]: Pal is black right? isaka [-\]: how old are these guys? ] ;B[pl]CR[pl]C[ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal is black, yes ESGC2006 [-\]: Between 18 and 30 EmTom [4k?\]: ESGC can you tell me who is Vit Brunner plating against? Donete [3d\]: students Donete [3d\]: :) ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal looks mid twenty ESGC2006 [-\]: Igor is 18 or 19 I presume ] ;W[mp]CR[mp]C[sunra [-\]: donete pls, a repincher here would messy or? ] ;B[oo]CR[oo] ;W[on]CR[on]C[Jing1984 [?\]: is Pal the winner no metter the result? ] ;B[no]CR[no] ;W[pp]CR[pp] ;B[nq]CR[nq] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[oq]CR[oq]C[sunra [-\]: would be* ESGC2006 [-\]: Yes, but there are two places for the World Student Championship EmTom [4k?\]: 2 places and best girl? ESGC2006 [-\]: So, Nemlij, Brunner and Kuin are competing for second place ESGC2006 [-\]: Klara Zaloudkova is the best girl prob. ] ;W[ol]CR[ol] ;B[ok]CR[ok] ;W[nl]CR[nl]C[tudorus [-\]: no manuela lindemeyer ] ;B[ql]CR[ql] ;W[pm]CR[pm]C[tudorus [-\]: s5 ] ;B[qr]CR[qr]C[ESGC2006 [-\]: manuela plays now with Ewa Mos for the ticket to Japan :-) EmTom [4k?\]: go Ewa go!!! :D ESGC2006 [-\]: Because Klara cannot go two times in a row tudorus [-\]: ic osullivan [3k?\]: are the results available on internet? sonicyouth [13k\]: Ewa black? tudorus [-\]: manuela should win^^ ESGC2006 [-\]: check czech go association pages ESGC2006 [-\]: Ewa is on white (7.5 komi) ] ;W[oj]CR[oj]C[sonicyouth [13k\]: thanks ] ;B[nk]CR[nk] ;W[pk]CR[pk] ;B[pj]CR[pj] ;W[qk]CR[qk] ;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: manuela? Zureiyaa [-\]: ewa? Zureiyaa [-\]: who are they ] ;W[rk]CR[rk]C[whiteraven [10k\]: some great go players ... obviously Zureiyaa [-\]: from..? tudorus [-\]: there is a ladder ] ;B[oi]CR[oi]C[chmol [6k\]: exgc2006, do you know the result of the belgian player, Alexis Gottcheiner? ] ;W[nj]CR[nj] ;B[mk]CR[mk]C[osullivan [3k?\]: no results to be found on the site ] ;W[rj]CR[rj]C[chmol [6k\]: that's why I ask whiteraven [10k\]: zureiyaa, you can check the ESGC website's registered players page Zureiyaa [-\]: nah ESGC2006 [-\]: I check it later... Zureiyaa [-\]: even you don't know players? ] ;B[mj]CR[mj]C[sonicyouth [13k\]: undo? ESGC2006 [-\]: white didn't play yet ESGC2006 [-\]: my mistake slim76 [3k\]: o11 looked funny ESGC2006 [-\]: sorry isaka [-\]: np ESGC2006 [-\]: I shouldn't kibitz that much and look better :-) Donete [3d\]: hehe ] (;W[ni]CR[ni]C[tibali [1d\]: this is the final of students?¿? osullivan [3k?\]: http://www.czech-go.net/ecs2006/results.php ESGC2006 [-\]: last round if the European Student Championship chmol [6k\]: thanks ]) (;W[fd]CR[fd] ;B[ni]CR[ni]C[osullivan [3k?\]: k4 looks big ] ;W[dj]CR[dj] ;B[fq]CR[fq]C[nabax [6k?\]: finalitats kryft [14k?\]: Pretty nice ladder breaker there. :) ] ;W[cn]CR[cn] ;B[ri]CR[ri] ;W[rl]CR[rl] ;B[id]CR[id]C[osullivan [3k?\]: i dont think d10 is good G0rk4 [9k\]: yes it is ESGC2006 [-\]: why? G0rk4 [9k\]: stones works sunra [-\]: k4 or d13 instead? G0rk4 [9k\]: D10 work with C17 and F16 and with D4 G0rk4 [9k\]: works* sunra [-\]: d14 i mean? dumbling1 [1d\]: d14 is too small sunra [-\]: ok sonicyouth [13k\]: who stands better? dumbling1 [1d\]: d10 makes balance betweenupper and lower left corner ESGC2006 [-\]: looks an even game to me isaka [-\]: i like W sunra [-\]: but isnt d10 an invantation to invade here soon? ESGC2006 [-\]: maybe Black is a little better because of the centre-power ] ;W[pc]CR[pc]C[Kamyk [3d\]: a bit for black now maybe next move something change.. dumbling1 [1d\]: I would vote for black, too tudorus [-\]: and black has more solid points osullivan [3k?\]: i think w k4 instead of d10 wouldve been way better ] ;B[oc]CR[oc]C[sunra [-\]: so early q17? dumbling1 [1d\]: sunra, if black invades, a fight will develop which is bad for black, osullivan [3k?\]: aji creation tudorus [-\]: its a probe Advent [7k\]: Isnt d10 a way of threatening to play k4? dumbling1 [1d\]: q17 is the heart of the black moyo Zureiyaa [-\]: do you even know hos strong these guys are? sunra [-\]: ok dumpling sunra [-\]: dumbling* eris [1k\]: i liked n17 better dumbling1 [1d\]: np ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal (black) is 6d osullivan [3k?\]: in any case, w needs to attack f3 now ESGC2006 [-\]: Igor is 5d eris [1k\]: f3 area is not hot ESGC2006 [-\]: (and the scribe is dutch shodan) hakuoro [10k\]: ^^ Zureiyaa [-\]: pal? Zureiyaa [-\]: kgs macisajt? Lacrimosa [4k?\]: yes Zureiyaa [-\]: cool :) Zureiyaa [-\]: i chose my side :P Kamyk [3d\]: ;D Lacrimosa [4k?\]: igor? Zureiyaa [-\]: nope :D ESGC2006 [-\]: Nemlij osullivan [3k?\]: f3 attack not hot? ] ;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: i have always liked macisajt's style :I osullivan [3k?\]: i can imagine w winning if b k4 eris [1k\]: no, black can jsut escape into corner, no biggie Zureiyaa [-\]: and he plays a lot of blitz games just like me :p ] ;B[pd]CR[pd] ;W[if]CR[if]C[sonicyouth [13k\]: so after all, white is Ewa, who's black then? (I got confused) ] ;B[ge]CR[ge]C[Kamyk [3d\]: Wow Zureiyaa [-\]: g15 was fast Lacrimosa [4k?\]: o_O Zureiyaa [-\]: how old is pal? isaka [-\]: this is not the women's game Kamyk [3d\]: fight... ] ;W[fe]CR[fe]C[sunra [-\]: ddont understand this early q17 :( ] ;B[gf]CR[gf] ;W[gd]CR[gd] ;B[hd]CR[hd]C[Kamyk [3d\]: :) Zureiyaa [-\]: maybe someday you will =) domie [4k?\]: later W can live with ko myao [?\]: ESGC=? myao [?\]: espanoi? Zureiyaa [-\]: european student go champion ] ;W[ih]CR[ih]C[Kamyk [3d\]: european Zureiyaa [-\]: ships ] ;B[gh]CR[gh]C[kryft [14k?\]: "I don't understand" tends to be the first step to getting stronger.. Usually when I manage to confuse myself completely, I find myself gaining a stone soon. ;) myao [?\]: who vs who? Zureiyaa [-\]: :O Zureiyaa [-\]: white is igor(?) and black is pal Zureiyaa [-\]: pal (kgs macisajt) ESGC2006 [-\]: Igor Nemlij (Russia) sunra [-\]: i was three stones better once :( Zureiyaa [-\]: but how old is pal? ] ;W[he]CR[he]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: hmmhh Zureiyaa [-\]: aggressive domie [4k?\]: they are the finalists ? ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal is between 20 and 30 ] ;B[ei]CR[ei]C[asrael [17k\]: he is 21 sunra [-\]: 30 :=) ] ;W[ke]CR[ke] ;B[kc]CR[kc]C[sonicyouth [13k\]: any comments about what's going on? sunra [-\]: two weak groups :) kryft [14k?\]: Methinks they're fighting. ;) Advent [7k\]: black wants to win, so does white... Advent [7k\]: ^^ sonicyouth [13k\]: ;-) eris [1k\]: dancing chmol [6k\]: I prefer b situation eris [1k\]: talking nabax [6k?\]: sorry which color is macisajt? Zureiyaa [-\]: black domie [4k?\]: I also prefer B Zureiyaa [-\]: this is hard game for white.. nabax [6k?\]: thx ESGC2006 [-\]: This the last round of the Euro. Student Championships in Brno (Czechia) ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal has already 5 points ] ;W[ch]CR[ch]C[cyb3r [17k\]: what is the nationality of the finalists? ] ;B[hj]CR[hj]C[domie [4k?\]: what about tasuki ? ESGC2006 [-\]: tasuki? ] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[nb]CR[nb]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: pal has won every game? ESGC2006 [-\]: yes Zureiyaa [-\]: nice =) Dita [5k\]: pal = 9d? domie [4k?\]: hmmm he is tasuki on KGS but his name is vit brunner :) chmol [6k\]: there has already been 5 games? sunra [-\]: 6d ] ;W[lc]CR[lc]C[chmol [6k\]: http://www.czech-go.net/ecs2006/results.php chmol [6k\]: this site shows only 4 the results of 4 games ESGC2006 [-\]: Brunner is competing with Merlijn Kuin, maybe for second place sunra [-\]: i start to understand q17 now :) ESGC2006 [-\]: depends on SOS and SOSOS domie [4k?\]: ok thanks ] ;B[kd]CR[kd] ;W[ld]CR[ld]C[sunra [-\]: around k4 soon ] ;B[lb]CR[lb]C[Lacrimosa [4k?\]: can't abandon fight, i think ] ;W[kb]CR[kb] ;B[mc]CR[mc]C[Laza [1d\]: Does Igor Nemlij play on KGS? ] ;W[la]CR[la] ;B[mb]CR[mb] ;W[lf]CR[lf] ;B[md]CR[md]C[ESGC2006 [-\]: I will ask maybe after the game... Laza [1d\]: ok ] ;W[le]CR[le] ;B[jb]CR[jb]C[TheClown [1d\]: white look like having a hard time sunra [-\]: tengen now? Laza [1d\]: is this game going alive? Laza [1d\]: or just replay ] ;W[jj]CR[jj] ;B[ej]CR[ej]C[Dita [5k\]: its live game yes ] ;W[dk]CR[dk]C[Laza [1d\]: hmm... they are playing pretty fast...? vee [9k\]: esg is playing against esg? ImNoSensei [-\]: it's a demo ImNoSensei [-\]: -_-" GoMage [3k\]: it dosen't seem that fast TheClown [1d\]: i play j8 now and i do it fast ] ;B[il]CR[il]C[sunra [-\]: :) Laza [1d\]: lol oedipus [4k?\]: anyone know how KGS ranks compare to ORO? ImNoSensei [-\]: oro SDK are terribly weak TheClown [1d\]: does m11 give enuff eyes redwood [3k\]: the bottom is starting to look like B's TheClown [1d\]: white only need 2 sunra [-\]: w needs both around k4 and saving his group :( sfsfsef: 3d ORO =3k KGS oedipus [4k?\]: thx GoMage [3k\]: but stronger ranks on orro are better i think GoMage [3k\]: i mean, the high dans sfsfsef: yes ImNoSensei [-\]: high dan is high dan oedipus [4k?\]: 6 dan = ? sfsfsef: 8ds are pro strenght oedipus [4k?\]: thx oedipus [4k?\]: =) TheClown [1d\]: must give awy k4 for black - cant expect live in sente TheClown [1d\]: either k8 or m11 Dita [5k\]: K8 now? ] ;W[jl]CR[jl]C[GoMage [3k\]: I guess :p TheClown [1d\]: if k8 - risk helping black secure bottom Zureiyaa [-\]: :E Dita [5k\]: m11 or m12 dont think w van live Dita [5k\]: can* GoMage [3k\]: yeah, giving him a strong shape while white cna live lightlu with m11 Zureiyaa [-\]: i am 5d on cyberoro Zureiyaa [-\]: haven't lost yet federles [-\]: its not so sure w can live with m11 Zureiyaa [-\]: 5d+ 5d+ 5d+ 4d+... =) TheClown [1d\]: j7 or k7 that is the question sunra [-\]: or w connects simply while attacking the button ] ;B[im]CR[im]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: and what are you on KGS ? ] ;W[jm]CR[jm] ;B[jn]CR[jn]C[GoMage [3k\]: I'd probably choose k7.. TheClown [1d\]: u r a k7 Mage <:o) Zureiyaa [-\]: 2d-5d :) Dita [5k\]: cut :3 GoMage [3k\]: k7 mage? Zureiyaa [-\]: sure i have some 1d accounts but they are quite old ;I redwood [3k\]: isn't there something for B around K11? sunra [-\]: its w move :) sunra [-\]: still k4? or k5 even? Dita [5k\]: K11 J11 J10 L10 ] ;W[kn]CR[kn]C[whiteraven [10k\]: -__-" TheClown [1d\]: yes Flag [2k?\]: zureiyaa, are u not from the "cave"? Dita [5k\]: perhaps? TheClown [1d\]: whites shape is thin GoMage [3k\]: maybe K9 TheClown [1d\]: wedge also look dangerous Dita [5k\]: hmmm Zureiyaa [-\]: i am from cave, why? Dita [5k\]: if Flag [2k?\]: no, i think u were stronger than 2d here Dita [5k\]: J11 K11 K12 L12 K13 J13 Dita [5k\]: so J11 no danger Zureiyaa [-\]: yes Flag [2k?\]: around 5d if dont mistake GoMage [3k\]: dita try K9 Dita [5k\]: ok Zureiyaa [-\]: i was 5d, but now it's 4d :I TheClown [1d\]: k9 GoMage [3k\]: I bet it has something tudorus [-\]: l7 GoMage [3k\]: but abit dangerous I guess GoMage [3k\]: cause if white disconnects H10 it's.. weird :P ] (;B[ko]CR[ko]C[TheClown [1d\]: i am a k9-Clown <:o) ]) (;B[in]CR[in] ;W[ko]CR[ko]C[Dita [5k\]: K9 takes only 1 stone sente ] ;B[km]CR[km] ;W[kl]CR[kl]C[Flag [2k?\]: sorry, is macisajz black or white? TheClown [1d\]: wow ] ;B[lm]CR[lm] ;W[ll]CR[ll]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: black Flag [2k?\]: th Flag [2k?\]: x Dita [5k\]: K9 L9 J9 L7 L10 M10 L11 M11 L12 M12 etc Zureiyaa [-\]: im cave's founding member with namii =) ] ;B[ml]CR[ml] ;W[mm]CR[mm] ;B[ln]CR[ln] ;W[mn]CR[mn] ;B[lo]CR[lo]C[Flag [2k?\]: i am a hidden member, "homunculus" ] ;W[mo]CR[mo] ;B[lp]CR[lp] ;W[mq]CR[mq]C[slim76 [3k\]: nice cut Zureiyaa [-\]: cool ;D ] ;B[kp]CR[kp]C[GoMage [3k\]: er GoMage [3k\]: dita Dita [5k\]: :3 ] ;W[kh]CR[kh]C[GoMage [3k\]: you can atari at m9 before extending ] ;B[nm]CR[nm]C[aitkensam [1d\]: w seems pretty screwed..... ] ;W[nn]CR[nn] ;B[om]CR[om]C[sunra [-\]: u :( Zureiyaa [-\]: resign GoMage [3k\]: unless I'm mising something dita? Dita [5k\]: ah you are right GoMage [3k\]: so cut worked.. Dita [5k\]: let me think :P GoMage [3k\]: nit tjos see,s better maybe GoMage [3k\]: but this seems better maybe.. Dita [5k\]: so then w loses 2 stones mstarsup5 [3k\]: resign GoMage [3k\]: yeah dita, but he gets disconnected :) GoMage [3k\]: this still better.. Zureiyaa [-\]: afff, hankies ran out ;< valdemar [9k\]: zure, still ill? Zureiyaa [-\]: a bit :I valdemar [9k\]: :( ] ;W[rq]CR[rq]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: i've got cold ] ;B[qm]CR[qm] ;W[np]CR[np]C[Zureiyaa [-\]: and im coughing a lot ] ;B[rr]CR[rr]C[sonicyouth [13k\]: w crushed ;/ TheClown [1d\]: blacks 2 stone capture a little odd - it didnt look like it run anywhere Zureiyaa [-\]: i'd like to see mac's face now ] ;W[sr]CR[sr]C[vondutch: R4? ] ;B[mr]CR[mr] ;W[lr]CR[lr] ;B[ms]CR[ms]C[sunra [-\]: who shouted rsign, resign? gooo white! GoMage [3k\]: go white? kiyohime [2k?\]: W is macisajt? sunra [-\]: b is maci sonicyouth [13k\]: b ] ;W[lq]CR[lq] ;B[os]CR[os]C[redwood [3k\]: live first, laugh later ] ;W[rs]CR[rs]C[kiyohime [2k?\]: W any hope? ] ;B[qs]CR[qs] ;W[ls]CR[ls]C[GoMage [3k\]: no :D ] ;B[or]CR[or] ;W[hq]CR[hq] ;B[jq]CR[jq] ;W[jr]CR[jr] ;B[ji]CR[ji] ;W[ii]CR[ii]C[sunra [-\]: never underestiamate the young russians! redwood [3k\]: now the attack Lacrimosa [4k?\]: the vital point ?-) ] ;B[ki]CR[ki] ;W[li]CR[li] ;B[kj]CR[kj]C[Dita [5k\]: if this does not lead to resgin :) ] ;W[ij]CR[ij]C[Dita [5k\]: resign.. kiyohime [2k?\]: H9. :) Flag [2k?\]: b will design these stones ] ;B[hk]CR[hk] ;W[jh]CR[jh]C[vondutch: i think they will remain black and keep the same shape tho ] ;B[lk]CR[lk]C[sonicyouth [13k\]: b wants to finish quicly forcing w to res ] ;W[mg]CR[mg]C[redwood [3k\]: really? kiyohime [2k?\]: W forced B to play this way. :) sonicyouth [13k\]: :P ] ;B[hg]CR[hg]C[chmol [6k\]: SE: b+164.5 :-p GoMage [3k\]: SE never been bright anyways TheClown [1d\]: looks dead ] ;W[mi]CR[mi]C[sunra [-\]: w will make a living group Kagora [26k\]: how? Dita [5k\]: btw Dita [5k\]: is P4 any goo for b? redwood [3k\]: don't see why B didn't play M10 instead of M9 Dita [5k\]: good* vondutch: K14? ImNoSensei [-\]: it seems sente kiyohime [2k?\]: P4 is just sente. ] ;B[rm]CR[rm]C[TheClown [1d\]: what is that TheClown [1d\]: it looks small redwood [3k\]: but now P4 has S5 followup vondutch: gote? Flag [2k?\]: "i have enough" move, maybe sunra [-\]: w alive now or? GoMage [3k\]: yeah probably ] ;W[dr]CR[dr]C[BlackSmurf [13k\]: i guess he counted......dont think he needs to kill to win the game Flag [2k?\]: but it also attacks ] ;B[ig]CR[ig]C[Harleqin [2k?\]: i think n12 kills Kamyk [3d\]: :D sunra [-\]: then game might be close aitkensam [1d\]: maybe just gave w a chance to live ^^ Dita [5k\]: N12 kils ] ;W[jg]CR[jg]C[TheClown [1d\]: s7 i simply cant comprehend ] ;B[nh]CR[nh]C[federles [-\]: how come you all know N12 kills, but the players seem not to know? ImNoSensei [-\]: hehe Dita [5k\]: i'm 9d TheClown [1d\]: what was meaning with s7 Dita [5k\]: I like sandbagging Harleqin [2k?\]: pacifism? Flag [2k?\]: clown, i think he also consider to attack M2 stones Flag [2k?\]: also s7 is big TheClown [1d\]: but white cant realy save these 5 stones Harleqin [2k?\]: also kills GoMage [3k\]: well top is dead i guess.. resign soon redwood [3k\]: does B think he has enough? Left side is huge Harleqin [2k?\]: b k14 Dita [5k\]: this move also kils :) ] ;W[je]CR[je]C[frel [?\]: hmm, is J15 sente for white? TheClown [1d\]: i would "locally" prefer to start something like d3 and see what white would do about it before i play s7 Dita [5k\]: hmmmm redwood [3k\]: doesn't look alive yet ] ;B[ie]CR[ie]C[Harleqin [2k?\]: there is not enough room TheClown [1d\]: dead <:o( ] ;W[gi]CR[gi] ;B[hi]CR[hi]C[TheClown [1d\]: all white stones dead <:o( sunra [-\]: g11 was nonsens sunra [-\]: or? Lacrimosa [4k?\]: <:o) TheMage [4k\]: fishing redwood [3k\]: especially after J15 aitkensam [1d\]: w aims to connect K14 in sente? vondutch: looks like it chmol [6k\]: if he succed in it, he'll be alive TheClown [1d\]: almost ] ;W[ng]CR[ng]C[federles [-\]: its not sente though ] ;B[me]CR[me]C[kiyohime [2k?\]: It is enough for B to just shore up, surely. Flag [2k?\]: is there light in K16 and cut scene? Ordiac [7k\]: b looks extermely toasted ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal has a look on the other boards... Flag [2k?\]: lol ] ;W[pg]CR[pg]C[sunra [-\]: damn psychology ] ;B[of]CR[of]C[niki [8k\]: b looks toasted? GoMage [3k\]: pal = black? ] ;W[og]CR[og] ;B[re]CR[re]C[aitkensam [1d\]: b will answer J14 b protecting that cut if it ever gets that far flag TheClown [1d\]: this looks not possible ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal is black kiyohime [2k?\]: Haha S15. TheClown [1d\]: good move kills corner too for sure Ordiac [7k\]: well aint it good ? ] ;W[jf]CR[jf] ;B[mh]CR[mh]C[Vador [11k\]: W dead, isn't he ? kimlongVN [11k\]: w will resign TheClown [1d\]: resignation time liza [-\]: how strong is white? ] ;W[hh]CR[hh]C[tudorus [-\]: 5d ] ;B[gg]CR[gg]C[liza [-\]: ok Ordiac [7k\]: m12 is sente ? emk [5k\]: no =) GoMage [3k\]: bo :D kiyohime [2k?\]: M12 not sente. :) GoMage [3k\]: no* liza [-\]: guess he must see something the rest of us dont then ^^ GoMage [3k\]: N14 L13 miai to kill GoMage [3k\]: liza, that's probably called hope simplet [3k\]: killing moves always gote kiyohime [2k?\]: L9. ] ;W[fh]CR[fh] ;B[fi]CR[fi] ;W[fg]CR[fg] ;B[gj]CR[gj] ;W[jd]CR[jd]C[aitkensam [1d\]: ? he plays on? ] ;B[jc]CR[jc] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[ic]CR[ic]C[Vador [11k\]: So B not toasted :-) Harleqin [2k?\]: liza: russians never resign before even a 10k can not lose from the position ] ;W[ff]CR[ff]C[liza [-\]: :) ] ;B[fo]CR[fo]C[kryft [14k?\]: It's only 40 points, perhaps his endgame is *really* strong Advent [7k\]: haha crazyice [11k?\]: H14 then K19?? whiteraven [10k\]: -_- Flag [2k?\]: i think it is more than 40 tudorus [-\]: b could still fall dead from his chair TheClown [1d\]: should resign liza [-\]: jeff or breakfast, would any of you care to comment on the this ? aitkensam [1d\]: maybe he is winning on time ^^ kiyohime [2k?\]: K19 ain't a ko. :) GoMage [3k\]: K19 J19 GoMage [3k\]: no ko :D crazyice [11k?\]: yes Flag [2k?\]: tsumego is important indeed frel [?\]: H17 threatens ko :Z sfsfsef: anyway w's machiavelic plan to get H18 by sacrificing M15 worked,so there is no reason for him to resign Ordiac [7k\]: lol what tsumego got to do with k19 not being a ko ? GoMage [3k\]: 300 tsumegos a day and you either be a dan player or die. bledesu: die :) Flag [2k?\]: i mean whole group GoMage [3k\]: probably Flag [2k?\]: i didnt see k19 crazyice [11k?\]: S12?? ] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[rd]CR[rd] ;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[na]CR[na]C[redwood [3k\]: how can B see those moves so fast? redwood [3k\]: low on time? kiyohime [2k?\]: REad them all out before. :) ImNoSensei [-\]: read them a while back Podjeved [-\]: what is so difficult? sunra [-\]: sure he wins :( that helps a lot kiyohime [2k?\]: When playing S15 likely. GoMage [3k\]: played those positions 39432 times: ) ESGC2006 [-\]: Black has enough time Flag [2k?\]: actually t18 is better imho ] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[sc]CR[sc] ;W[sb]CR[sb] ;B[ra]CR[ra]C[Flag [2k?\]: o19 is not best redwood [3k\]: well, it's awful shape, but it works kiyohime [2k?\]: Hahaha. Dita [5k\]: w dead kiyohime [2k?\]: Blitz killage. Dita [5k\]: Q18 kills ] ;W[rg]CR[rg]C[sunra [-\]: havin enough time left, watching other boards , play moves like s7, this maci is a bit arrogant grrr :) bahbah [-\]: w is sick lol newcomer23 [5k?\]: i love this black, unbelievable Flag [2k?\]: zombie walks ] ;B[qh]CR[qh]C[bahbah [-\]: what is he trying? sfsfsef: w sure is 5d? niki [8k\]: w's really stubborn Vollfield [3k?\]: who is w? redwood [3k\]: W still hoping B falls out of chair tudorus [-\]: some russians have problems with fair play. its well known vondutch: white's been bitchslapped Sirri [17k?\]: W = Nemlij Igor Ordiac [7k\]: whats "fair play" ? Vollfield [3k?\]: thx Jazzman [6k\]: though a czech would play an hungarian ? federles [-\]: some observers here have problems with fair commenting it seems Jazzman [6k\]: no russians involved? GoMage [3k\]: stop with the raciast comments about russians kiyohime [2k?\]: W resigned yet? vondutch: racist comments? frel [?\]: there were tournaments where russian players would walk away from their boards to ask advice from stronger players liza [-\]: lol Vador [11k\]: W has 70 sure points on the West border kiyohime [2k?\]: British tournaments where British did the same thing. vondutch: obviously non-russians ImNoSensei [-\]: and that is because they are russian right ? Ordiac [7k\]: but thats plain illegal ? kiyohime [2k?\]: It's just people, not Russians. :) Vador [11k\]: So it's not that easy to resign liza [-\]: is that allowed in tournaments? Harleqin [2k?\]: vador: black has the rest mstarsup5 [3k\]: vador, B has 70 points more than W kiyohime [2k?\]: liza: No. :) Dita [5k\]: did w resign? liza [-\]: hi ms =) mstarsup5 [3k\]: how is it not easy to resign? mstarsup5 [3k\]: hi liza Flag [2k?\]: if it is not allowed, than he or she disqualifies, kiyohime [2k?\]: L9 resign. frel [?\]: at those tournaments the referee was russian too redwood [3k\]: I count 42 dead W stones Flag [2k?\]: oh Ordiac [7k\]: thay dont have a resign button that yer can accidentally misclick on newcomer23 [5k?\]: p4 for fun ESGC2006 [-\]: White resigns sunra [-\]: frel come down pls Pento [12k\]: thanks ESGC2006 ESGC2006 [-\]: There is a lot at stake in this tournament vondutch: nothing wrong with russians imo frel [?\]: vondutch: I agree GoMage [3k\]: hm? GoMage [3k\]: what kind of stake? Flag [2k?\]: what did u mean esgc? frel [?\]: just saying where the comment comes from Harleqin [2k?\]: thank you, white ESGC2006 [-\]: Places for the World Student Championship Harleqin [2k?\]: if course there is a lot at stake, but when a game is over, it is over aitkensam [1d\]: wasting valuable drinking time.... ESGC2006 [-\]: The players decide about this... GoMage [3k\]: ok thanks ofr letting us see the game ESG Vador [11k\]: Haven't seen a Cappy's game for a while, Harlequin ? Flag [2k?\]: beefstake Harleqin [2k?\]: right GoMage [3k\]: for* ESGC2006 [-\]: thanks for joining ImNoSensei [-\]: thx Flag [2k?\]: thx too redwood [3k\]: thanks ESG Harleqin [2k?\]: you can't force any player to any move, including resigning Setivault [?\]: what were the name of players? Harleqin [2k?\]: but you can scowl liza [-\]: you can ask nice if the player will resign maybe ^^ ESGC2006 [-\]: Pal Balogh (black) vs Igor Nemlij (white) sonicyouth [13k\]: w still thinking or alredy resigned? newcomer23 [5k?\]: this is realy rude Setivault [?\]: thx ESGC2006 [-\]: resigned ESGC2006 [-\]: thanks you all sonicyouth [13k\]: thanks much newcomer23 [5k?\]: hahahaaaaa newcomer23 [5k?\]: thanks ])))